SWEET FREEDOM OF SPEECH!! (CHICK-FIL-A)

Everyone has weighed in on the Chick-Fil-A phenomenon of last week, so there is not much I can add personally except to say, "Hallelujah and pass the chicken!!"  I loved to see the outpouring of support for free speech.  And even if you look at it as an outpouring for traditional marriage, I'm all for that, too!  It was some kind of victory for American values and voices.  Hip Hip Hooray for good folks standing up for two things they truly believe in, free speech and traditional marriage.  I was glad to see it.  I only wish the elections were so clear cut on the issues, instead of half measures and people we can't trust.  But that's a subject for another day.

I was looking at an American Thinker article by John C. Greene on the Chick-Fil-A event and came across some great comments that I want to share. It's a good article... but it was so fun reading through the comments...I thought you might like them, too!  So here are some I picked out for you:

All come from this site: Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/08/the_chick-fil-a_phenomenon_comments.html#disqus_thread#ixzz22azPn4Qc

*"All my life, I was born in the Sixties, I have been the target of "change." My parents, with good reason, wanted to change me. Teachers, coaches, and mentors wanted to change me. The Hippies wanted to change me. All Liberals wanted to change me. I grew up in a culture of "change," confusion, "transformation," devolution, anti-Americanism, illogic, irrationalism, and general stupidity. Even women want to change me. I believe I am writing for many others: BACK THE FFF OFF--thanks, please come again."

*"..........what the left says and does in attacking conservative and or any other group of independent minded enlightened individuals that do not support subscribe to their liberal marxist ideology, are exactly what radical Saul Alinsky says to do, and how to do it, when to to do it, and so on.. to demonize, polarize, ridicule, mock, insult, traumatize, especially projectionism, to make their presumed position to be the perception position of the will of the majority of people, when in fact they are the minority and are not represent the will of the people, but are doing everything they can to force their will upon the rest of us, via these radical hate filled insidious vitriolic repulsive tactics and strategies.. But that's why they are radical marxist ideological idiots..
The left is a cancerous toxic ideology, and can and will completely destroy a civilized society of Freedom, Liberty, Democracy, and the Truth, in a blink of an eye.
Liberals use their pretense of tolerance and inclusiveness as a ruse to be intolerant, controlling, and even violent to anyone they wish to, and pretend that the law is only what they say it is, and is only applied to who and what and when they say it does, excluding them of course.
Their indoctrination of fraudulent and delusionary world of illogic, irrational, hate filled views is aimed directly at the people to make the insane sane, the lie the truth, and what they say as law, which is all based and derived from their leftist anti-Democratic anti-Freedom Socialist Marxist ideology, who which aligns itself with anything that promotes, advocates, and implements that view verbally, in print, and in action.
This is why the far left will always be the aggressor, the instigator, aka the problem. Thus is why conservatives will always be the defender of Freedom and Liberty, of Equal Justice, of the US Constitution, of Democracy, and of Truth and Righteousness."


*"I don't eat much fast food and have never eaten at Chick-fil-A and never participate in things like 'Appreciation' day. But this time, I just decided I'm going to find a Chick-fil-A in my town and go."

*"I have many gay friends that I haven't spoken with since November of 2008. They don't see the forest for the trees. They don't see the deforestation of their economy and liberties because they are too involved with saving their particular political tree--gay rights (or black rights, or women's rights, etc. ad infinitum).

They refuse to see the $16 trillion debt for what it is. They refuse to prepare for the crash of the entitlement programs within their lifetimes. They are not emotionally prepared for a total meltdown of their faux economy, based on afirmative action and political payback and handouts."

*"The gay community is simply a vehicle for the progressives/socialists to employ in their quest to CONTROL every facet of society. They really don't give a twit for the well being of the gays."

*"The American Communist Party is a party of orcs. When one falls, another quickly takes its place. They are multiplying faster than we can get rid of them. We are being pitted between Commies and Mussies. But, we have the God of creation on our side, and we have the truth on our side. Keep praying, keep your eyes open, keep your powder dry, and keep the faith, baby."

*"It takes a lot more to beat a bunch of Commies than waiting in line to buy a sandwich and then saying you've had enough. They're relentless, Godless and demented and they will not have had enough until someone is destroyed, and they've still got Dan Cathy in their sights."

*"So remember, its not their fault! When dealing with a progressive understand that you are dealing with an addict every bit as 'high' and dangerous as anyone else with a monkey-on-their-back."

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/08/the_chick-fil-a_phenomenon_comments.html#disqus_thread#ixzz22b1iOgFy

APPLES, ORANGES, AND OXYMORONS - GAY MARRIAGE

Our State of North Carolina has a primary on May 8th and on the ballot is a referendum stating that marriage between one man and one woman will be the only marriage recognized by North Carolina. If passed, there will be an Amendment to our State Constitution stating just that. I think at this time, there are 30 or 31 states that already have such a resolution and Amendment passed. Locally, the gays and liberals are kicking up a huge stink because a County Commissioner has proposed a resolution in our county to support the Amendment to our State Constitution. The LGBT lobbyists are geared up to protest...."Oh, the injustice of it all!"

Well, we would not be discussing this except for socialist government interference in personal business. I have Libertarian friends who, while they don't like the idea of gay marriage, can't think of a Constitutional reason to deny gays "marriage." Because the Constitution does not specifically address marriage, they think we should just stay out of it and let them have marriage. I disagree.

Before I go further, I wish to clue you into my thinking. I am a Christian, a traditionalist, a married woman, mother of two children, divorced once, and committed to my family's best interest. I have no hate or bigotry against gays or other anomalies of gender, but at the same time, I don't celebrate them either. I frankly don't care what is done in someone's private bedroom (assuming consenting adults) and have no interest in regulating that beyond the protection of innocents. So my interest has nothing to do with inserting my beliefs into someone else's life other than recognizing the sky is the sky and marriage is between one man and one woman.

However, while I am not attempting to insert my views into their personal decisions, the LGBT factions wish to insert their beliefs into my life by co-opting the definition of marriage. Their desire is to bend definitions of a cultural and natural institution that will, with a doubt, confuse children and cause more chaos in our culture. If marriage is nothing more than a civil government contract, then you can assume that a contract can be made between several or any individuals who wish to call their relationships "marriage." If marriage is a religious sacrament, ordained by Our Creator, the question is settled. Game over. The traditional definition of marriage is by nature, both literally and figuratively, exclusive. But, even if it were just a civil contract, the reasons for keeping that exclusivity are many.

The secular reasons have to do with cultural morés, psychological influences on children, keeping the population healthy, providing familial protection for children, genealogical respect for inheritances, etc. Financial reasons also exist. Illegitimacy rates increase exponentially. (for those who like to think that gay marriage has no effect on heterosexual marriage customs.) Statistical information here

No amount of factual information will convince the LGBT proponents they should not have what they want but cannot have, i.e. the kind of marriage between a man a woman created through nature and culture. I don't believe we should even be having this discussion. The entire premise is a travesty as far as I can tell from logical and Biblical perspectives both.

The government we are suffering through today wishes to replace the family with government. They can't do it. A government cannot replace the male and female parents of children or teach the bonds therein. Yet, cradle to the grave government is what we are seeing manifest itself. So why not gay marriage? Why not polygamy? Why not all sorts of gender bending other options? As long as government is becoming the parents, who needs biological parents? And no, I don't believe marriage is only for procreation, but I do believe that marriage exists for two opposite sex participants.

A view of Marriage regarding the feminine identity

(The very word "marriage" comes from the Latin word for mother, mater.) It exists for the gathering-in of a woman's sexuality under the protective net of the human or divine order, or both.

WHY SHOULD I not be able to marry a man? The question addresses a class of human phenomena that can be described in sentences but nonetheless cannot be. However much I might wish to, I cannot be a father to a pebble--I cannot be a brother to a puppy--I cannot make my horse my consul. Just so, I cannot, and should not be able to, marry a man. If I want to be a brother to a puppy, are you abridging my rights by not permitting it? I may say what I please; saying it does not mean that it can be.

In a gay marriage, one of two men must play the woman, or one of two women must play the man. "Play" here means travesty--burlesque. Not that their love is a travesty; but their participation in a ceremony that apes the marriage bond, with all that goes into it, is a travesty. Their taking-over of the form of this crucial and fragile connection of opposites is a travesty of marriage's purpose of protecting, actually and symbolically, the woman who enters into marriage with a man. To burlesque that purpose weakens those protections, and is essentially and profoundly anti-female.

If you recognize gay coupling as described in that quote, as it is actually, you might wonder what gay marriage does to the standing of women in society. I would say it diminishes the standing of women with regard to natural law. Absolutely.

But isn't that the point? The legal standing of natural law is what is being shredded in the instance of gay marriage. Natural law is the basis for Jefferson's assertions in the Declaration of Independence. Site on Constitutional Law

"Nature has written her moral laws on the head and heart of every rational and honest man, where man may read them for himself. If ever you are about to say anything amiss, or to do anything wrong, consider beforehand you will feel something within you which will tell you it is wrong, and ought not to be said or done. This is your conscience, and be sure and obey it... Conscience is the only sure clue which will eternally guide a man clear of all his doubts and inconsistencies." Thomas Jefferson

Again, I would rather not be having this discussion. It's ridiculous on its face, and greatly damaging in all aspects to our society. The socialists in our government have been trying to rid our nation of our common natural law since the Progressive movement started over 100 years ago. This is but one more evidence of that. Gay marriage is not a right that can be given by a socialist government. Our rights don't come from government. It is nothing more than another tool to take down our natural rights as given by Our Creator as stated by Jefferson in the Declaration. But even if you don't subscribe to that substantiation, you can see there are many other considerations making gay marriage a very bad idea.


Other sources:
Pew Research on Religion and Family Life
In August 2010 The Pew Research Center for the People & the Press and the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life conducted their annual “Religion and the Issues: Results from the 2010 Annual Religion and Public Life Survey.” The survey revealed that only 35% of the population considers religion the main influence on their opinion about same-sex marriage. Of this number, 60% are opposed to same-sex marriage. That means only 21% of the population is opposed to same-sex marriage primarily on religious grounds. The other 27% of the population that is opposed to same-sex marriage is opposed to same-sex marriage primarily on other grounds such as education, personal experience, and the views of family and friends. Put another way, the majority of those who are opposed to same-sex marriage are motivated primarily by reasons other than religion.
Orthodoxy Today
"The laws of marriage do not create marriage, but in societies ruled by law they help trace the boundaries and sustain the public meanings of marriage. . . . Without this shared, public aspect, perpetuated generation after generation, marriage becomes what its critics say it is: a mere contract, a vessel with no particular content, one of a menu of sexual lifestyles, of no fundamental importance to anyone outside a given relationship."
Gulag Bound
"If marriage is simply a business arrangement, subject to regulations, then the products of the business are also open to inspection and regulation, correct? So the government can regulate your children? Is this where family social service agencies get their authority to go into a home and confiscate the children, when any unproven accusation is made?

Is this why schools can decree that all children will be taught about sex, beginning in kindergarten, and that “no parental option to decline is allowed”? Or the school staff can take a young woman from her school to an abortion clinic and never inform the parents that she was even pregnant?"
Orthodoxy Today
'We do know, however, that it would radically change the customs, laws, and moral expectations embedded in millennia of human experience. Marriage and family law reflect the historically cumulative complexities of necessarily public concerns about property, inheritance, legal liability, and the legitimacy of children--the latter entailing a host of responsibilities for which parents, and especially men, can be held accountable."